Time for some replies

From Lisa:

Hi Hun,

I have 2 gliders – one male and one female. They get along well on any other day EXCEPT when it comes to mating season. She doesn’t seem to like to mate. Whenever he comes close and smell / lick the you-know-where, she will start to crab (a very loud one to the point when I couldn’t sleep at all) and push him away. Is that a norm?

Hi Lisa

What your girl is trying to show your boy is that she doesn’t want to breed. Some females would tell off a male if it doesn’t want to breed. She is telling him she isn’t ready. Gliders will mate if they both accept one another during breeding periods, so if your girl is not ready, she won’t let him breed with her. Crabbing, chasing, a little squabbling is normal. So no worries. Once she feels that she is ready, she would let him mate with her. Just a matter of time.

From Pet Sugar Glider

what is the normal cost per day to board 2 sugar gliders?

Well, it depends. My price for boarding is very flexible coz I do it from home, it is normally Rm7 per day. The longer the stay, the cheaper it would be.

Some replies to comments made

OK, time to reply to a few comments.

From niniek

hi :)
rambo does look so calm in the pics.
I’m just wondering, how make my suggie get use to my dog barking and be as calm as Rambo?, and how to make my dogs stop being so curious over her. because one of my dog is very busy body and always comes close to me when I’m bonding with my suggie. I’m quite scared that my dog would bite her as my dog bites when she’s excited.

My joeys and gliders are quite calm around the presense of dogs, but not all are calm when my dogs bark alot. Some would run up and down, well, I would say the newbies to my home are a bit scared of barking dogs but my resident gliders are pretty calm. It just takes time.

Dogs and cats are natural domestic predators to such a small animal like a glider. It really isn’t wise to leave a glider freely without a cage with a dog or cat. You can make your dog get used to gliders by letting your dog smell a used pouch or toy with your glider’s smell. If they try to bite the pouch or toy, scold your dog or let your dog know it is wrong. My 2 cavaliers are quite ok with gliders because I let them know what are gliders when they were puppies. So they very much leave my gliders alone. They do come up to sniff them but never lay a paw or tooth on them before.

If your dog is aggressive or bites, then the best advice is to not let your dog near your glider.

From Yogy:

hey…i bought a 2 months of age joey recently…she’s ok in the sense that she plays around well…but she seems to be very afraid of human presence…any suggestions to change that??i would really appreciate it…thanks!!

Your joey is stil new, and she has not learn to trust humans yet. It will take time. Just carry her around in your bonding pouch, do hand feeding and keep handling her often. You will see a difference in a week or 2. It may take you a month to fully bond with your joey if you practice taking her in a bonding pouch every where you go and hand feed every day. Some joeys take only a few days to trust their owners, some would take a month or 2. So be patient. Gentle handling and daily interaction would calm her down.

An entry to reply

It’s been a busy week for me from the start of the Pet World Malaysia Pet Expo till today. Back to college, I’m trying to get back into the rhythm of studying.

Anyway, the Pet World exhibition was really good. We manage to educate many people, both local and foreign. Swell job, even to Emino, who did a wonderful thing by bringing his gliders and Explorium along. Once I get some pictures, I will update on an entry about the event.

Here is a question from a fellow reader:

Heys, I’m extremely interested in these little marsupials.. I’ve been following your blog for quite some time now and have read your whole blog starting from the first post. xD I still hope to learn more, like why did your Keera try to rub the male’s scent on her? Was she trying to be Gip Gip’s? And Sugar Gliders are defined as social animals, yet they don’t mate for life? Or do they?

Sorry about the questions, I am aware that they have nothing to do with keeping them, but I think that the more we understand them, the more we can cater to their needs. And I find them very fasinating and hope to be a Suger Glider owner one day…

Thank you for the comment. I don’t mind answering questions, be it on the phone, through emails or smses but it is best through email as I can put down more detail.

Keera is normally not friendly to other gliders but somehow she got this liking for Gip Gip…. and Gip Gip doesn’t like other gliders, so it was funny to see how Keera wanted to be Gip Gip’s girl. Keera already has a mate, Kuno so I too found it odd. Anyway, we can’t understand what goes on in a glider’s mind. Gliders are social creatures. In the wild, they have like a dominant male and a dominant female in a group, with a few females and young males in it. Only the dominant male mates.  The social group can be anywhere from 5 to 14 gliders. They do not mate for life so if we have a pair and one of the glider dies, it is best to introduce another glider to them as soon as possible to avoid depression.

At SuggiesAtHome, I let them be paired for life if possible. It is not right to have 3 females to 1 male in a cage. Firstly, they would be some issues like joey snatching and cannibalism. Female gliders can be jealous of one another when joeys and breeding is involved. Another reason would be the space. In the wild gliders have huge open areas of trees and greenery, so if there is a squabble or fight, they can easily escape from one another. In captivity, we shouldn’t overcrowd gliders in small cages, unless you can build a huge bird aviary then that would be another thing. If we are breeding them, I find 1 male to 1 female is the best. The most important thing about gliders is that when they breed and have joeys, the male plays an important part. He babysits and cleans the joeys, keeps them safe like how a human dad would. That is another reason why we should never separate the male once the female has joeys.

Sugar gliders are indeed facinating. I wish I have a net book with me so that it would be easier for me to update my blog while at college or away. Anyway, stay tuned for new entries.

Some questions

I will reply to some questions that I have not been able to answer during my 3 months of industrial training. Hopefully the readers who posted this would be able to read it soon.

Great! Glad u brought up this topic. So I guess I got to prepare myself ahead for the ‘big day’ i.e the day my boy get neutered.
My question are:-
1. What should the owner prepare before the surgery? What to expect?
2. Do we just send our sg to the vet and leave it there?
3. How long do we have to wait for the surgery to be over?
4. How long do we have to wait for our sg to wake up after surgery?
5. Can the owner watch the thier glider in the surgery room in the process?
6. When or sg wake up, whose face will they see first, owner or vet?

Thanks for yr guidance

Good that you have decided to neuter your glider. Well, there are a few things the owner should prepare and take note of.

1. The owner should have the cage cleaned up and disinfected. Take out the wheel coz running may injure the surgery area. The night before the surgery, the glider should not eat anything or drink any water to avoid complications during surgery.

2. Yes, just drop your glider at the clinic in the morning and you can take him back in the late afternoon or evening.

3. It depends. The surgery is fast, it depends on how stable your glider is before it can go home. It’s somewhere around 2 hours but it could be longer if there were complications.

4. The glider would wake quite fast if it was sedated using the gas…. but if it was an injection, then it would take longer, some gliders would vomit, chew and cry from the sudden pain…. so gas is the best. Normally the vet would hand back the glider to you once it wakes up.

5. People are not allowed into the surgery room coz it is a sterile environment.

6. Well, when a glider wakes up, it would be the vet or their assistant that they see first, and then only you because they have to make sure your glider is ok and healthy before handing back to you. But if your glider takes longer to wake up, they would let you accompany it till it awakes from the sedation but that depends on the vet.

hi…can i give my sg eat oat?.. tq

Yes, a glider can take oats but only rolled oats. Not instant oats, not porridge oats…. just plain old rolled oats and never too much coz oats can cause bloating if too much is consumed. Give as treats…. never as a staple.

Hello, i have a 3 month joey. He loves having mealworms. i would like to know how often should Ryo get his mealworms and how many for each meal?

You can give mealworms everyday but never exceed 10 a day. I normally give a few a day as treats coz mealworms are high in phosphorus and fats. We want our joeys to bulk up with proper food, not fatty food. I would suggest 5 to 6 a day for your Ryo.

A question from a reader

A question…. If I want to get a set of sg… Should I get both of them at the same time or should I wait to get the next sg?

Which has more cons than pros?

Hi Naimah,

Firstly, thanks for visiting this blog.

For your questions…. you can start with a single joey or a pair…. but personally, this is from my own experience…. I find bonding with joeys one by one tends to be faster. There are a few reasons:

Single joeys first (Pros and Cons)

  • When you bond with a single joey, it would be a 1 to 1 bondship with you and the joey. Meaning, you will be the one the joey sees everyday, to learn to trust and you would be the surrogate sibling or parent it turns to when it needs attention. So in a way, when the joey has no other glider around, it would turn to you and force itself to trust you.
  • It would be easier for you to bond with 1 because you will be giving 100% of your time, attention and effort. With 2, you would need to do equal bonding time, which may tire you. It is better to concentrate on your 1st joey first so that it would trust you and develop a special relationship with you.
  • But with a single joey, means you must be with it often as possible since it would be alone and joeys do not like loneliness. So you must be bringing it around with you in a bonding pouch and spend as much time with it when it is awake. It could mean you end up sleeping at 1am or 2am sometimes. You have to become the joey’s parent, playmate and companion.
  • With a single joey, you cannot forgo a day of bonding. You cannot say you are too tired and would play with your joey tomorrow and not today.
Getting 2 at once
  • You won’t need to worry about them being lonely as they have each other. 2 joeys would keep themselves busy and each other company, it would mean you can leave them for hours and not worry about them being bored.
  • Having 2 at once would mean you have to do double bonding. As the joeys have each other, they would seek each other as their security first rather than fully trust you first. So for new owners, it can be frustrating when the bonding process is slower.
I like to practice getting 1 joey first, then get a 2nd joey in about 2 to 3 months later. Because you would be focusing all your attention and determination with your 1st one. Your 1st joey would tend trust you and stick to you like glue later on. Once you get a 2nd joey, your 1st joey is already super tame and bonded with you, it may even teach your 2nd joey to trust you earlier than what you would expect. Gliders learn from one another, so the older ones do teach the younger ones how to behave. I did that with Keera and Kuno and Kuno is quite calm with me.
So think about it and see which is suitable for you, getting 1 first or 2 at once. Hope this reply helps you.

Answer to a reader

hye…my fren who bot a sg from u recommended me to deal with u…i’ve been reading alot on sg n hedgehog, n been considering on getting either one…..im not sure whether this info is relevant or not, but im staying in college…so would it be a suitable environment to place these sg? any info would be much appreciated…n if i have decided…..should i get 1 or a pair of joeys? my only concern is that…since these marsupials are nocturnal n social creature…..i would be gone for classes mostly during the day….would that b a major problem? thanx…sorry for asking too much…i just need to know so that i wouldnt neglect this cute animal

Hi Nurul

Well, first of all, send my regards to your friend. Thank you for visiting my blog too. Well, the answer is gonna be long so I though why not share it in a post.

Many students actually do own sugar gliders now. I have many friends who are still in college like me and we too only have time after classes. You have to make sure you can commit to the gliders coz when they are joeys, they require lots of attention, lots of bonding and handling time. You can shorten the bonding by always carrying a sleeping pouch with them all day, but that depends if you got classes that restricts noises or not.

About hostel, well, it also depends on the rules. Are you allowed to have pets in the hostel? Would anyone complain if they heard barking and crabbing from a glider? There are students who have been able to keep gliders in their hostels plainly because the rules are not strict and no one comes around to check their rooms. So be sure you can cope this.

Secondly, one of the things I would say glider owners should have in their homes would be a small fridge and a blender if possible. The fridge would keep the produce and food fresh for your glider and a blender comes in handy if you need to create some fruit blends for them.

About 1 or 2 joeys, it would be up to you. I normally start off with 1 joey first, then after a month or 2, I go on with the second joey because the time gap allows me to concentrate on bonding with the first joey. Gliders should be kept in a pair for life, so in the end you would definitely end up with 2 gliders. Anyway, it is up to you, 1 or 2 joeys but you must be able to give each joey individual attention. Bonding and handling is crucial at their young joey age as that is where they learn to trust you, to see you as their friend, care giver, security tree and their surrogate mom. If we do not give them enough bonding time, the gliders won’t be very tame, they will not trust us. To them, we are just food givers and a big annoying monster. I don’t really get much sleep or travel and have a good time with friends coz I got many gliders to handle, it’s just a big commitment for me. So you have to be ready to commit, to stay up late at night to handle them and to stay confident and not let a few crabs and bites or nips scare you. Remember, when we get a glider, we gotta be ready for a 10 to 15 year commitment.

Answer to a reader…

Hi there…

I just bought 1 single male SG last 3 days…
the probs is…he keep crabbing when im approch him and even when im feeding him…
so what should i do..??how to make him tame to me?any advice?

thanks.

Regards,
eZaY


Hi eZay

How old is your joey? It could be that he lacked handling when he was younger. It is normal for joeys to be crabby when you first bring them home because they are scared, lonely and do not trust you yet. It will take some time. You need to carry him around even if he is crabbing all the way. Your joey has to get used to you.

Do carry your joey in a bonding pouch. Then talk to him and touch him while he is in the pouch. It is alright if he crabs, he will learn to calm down with time and stop crabbing. Handling him often with your bare hands would boost the taming as well.

If you never tried to touch him or handle him, and just let him live in a cage and the only closeness is by just feeding him, then you will never see imrpovements. You got to make him trust you and like you, so handling and pouch bonding is the key. Hope this answers your question.

An answer to a reader…

I have a 6 month old neutered male and a 7 month old female. I got the male and had him neutered before I got the female, about two months apart The male keeps jumping on the back and nipping at the female while making a “chirping” sound. Since the male is neutered what’s going on?

Are you sure the glider is neutered properly? Are his testicals removed? It sounds like your make is mating…. or wants to mate. My males do chase my females when the female is on heat and the male would grip the female tightly, also holding the female behind the back of their necks. When my females come on heat, the males normally would lick the females alot, as in lick the privates (cloaca). Then the male would do alot of scent marking by rubbing himself on every part of their cage and peeing droplets of pee all around.  Females would reject by avoiding the male or crab back at them. During mating

I don’t have any recordings of my own as my camera hand phone is quite bad, so I found a video on YouTube. A pair of gliders mating.

This noise is also heard during matings….